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Eric Iversen's avatar

There has to be limits. The biggest is no memoir. If you have accomplished something amazing or been through something astonishing, maybe it's ok. It's pure narcissism to think a group of strangers want to hear about unexciting failed relationships, poignant memories, etc. I literally start shaking. Make something up. Be creative or be quiet. Second, have a f---ing point, even if it's to excite or scare the listener. Or, better yet, go nuts and have a deep meaning, a lesson. Third, actually reread and edit your work. No first drafts. Ever.

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Maegan Heil's avatar

Depends on the workshop.

There’s this one I’ve applied to three years in a row now and been declined each time. Space is limited. Instruction is highly individualized. 60% of writers go on to be published traditionally. Just because I want in doesn’t mean I’m ready. Throughout the year I try to learn as much as I can on my own, improve, and come up with a new short story that will give me a better shot the next year. Learning how to write well is a long-term process.

On the other hand, if the workshop is for beginners, why not say everyone is welcome with equal opportunity? If space is limited, maybe there is a lottery. Feedback should be focused on what is working, put gently (rather than bluntly) and pointing out opportunities for improvement as these writers are just getting their feet on the ground and you don’t want to crush anyone before they begin to blossom.

At some point though, these beginning writers may want a little more criticism. They may want to know, Is my writing boring? If so, why? What can I do to improve? And when they are ready for that kind of feedback, I think they will appreciate more exclusive programs, blunt feedback, etc., etc. Of course, some of what makes writing boring or not is a matter of preference when it comes to styles/genre/etc.

As far as systemized education in the United States—Should children be given equal access to learning so they can grow to achieve their best? I would argue Yes. 100%. Because education is a necessity, creative writing could probably be considered a luxury. Can there be special programs for kids who are high achievers? Sure. Yes. In the US, there are.

But for writing? In a money-paying scenario, such as MFA?

1) first writer has to get accepted to the program, through demonstration of talent. If accepted and pay tuition, you get equal time with limits which are expected to be followed.

2) if someone stands out as especially talented, the instructor maybe gets with them on the side and takes special interest to help them grow further. (I have heard about this happening with authors like Brian Sanderson.) Or not.

So my answer is um.....gray. I choose grayHaHah!

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