I hear ya. I’ve been working out like crazy for the better part of a year now. Almost back to being comfortable with my shirt off. It doesn’t happen as easily as it used to.
Millions of men descended from other men who were warriors generation after generation for hundreds of thousands of years cant just turn off the need for rough physical trials.
I used to think that if something was on Netflix, a documentary, a feature film, somehow it went through a deep scrutiny. High quality checks. It was supposed to be good stuff. Brand loyalty. Something like that.
Then I bumped into some beautifully shot but poorly written documentaries. On the verge of being pathetic. Listening to some hideous off-putting statements that ruined my evening and send the whole bucket of popcorns to waste.
I was tempted to watch Woodstock '99, but now I kind of rather prefer to go for a long walk with the dog.
Ah, the movie ‘Fight Club’. So damaging to the minds of youth that it was effecting them in all manner of ways months before theatrical release. For shame.
If these so called “social scientists” knew anything about the movies releases of 1999 and their effects upon a society, then they’d know that the movie release from that year most likely to cause anarchy, mass destruction and death would be none other than ‘Star Wars: The Phantom Menace’.
A fitting subtitle for such a harbinger of misery and mayhem if I do say so myself.
literally every current problem in society can be attributed to it if we follow the breadcrumb trail back far enough. How that thing made it past the censors, we’ll never know.
I remember watching Fight Club for the first time vividly. I watched it with a couple guys from school. I adored Edward Norton and so I nosed around a little more and found this author, Palahniuk. He wrote this piece called Guts. I had to read it in shifts. The funny part is running up to your friends and trying to summarize Guts it a couple of sentences in order to goat people into reading it and then watching them do the same. That in itself is hilarious and entertaining.
Saw Fight Club in the theater in 1999 shortly after starting college. Immediately sought out the book as well. Still the movie/book I quote most during my day-to-day conversations with myself.
I hate to ask on here, but I couldn't find the information on your site. Chuck, my local University and Comic-Con reached out to me, thinking we're pals because I traveled 14 hours for a meet and greet with you once like 5 years ago, but they were wanting to look into booking you for a speaking event. Who should I have them contact?
Hopefully you don’t take offense to this -- because I’m coming from a respectful place when I say this. But when I first saw the preview for Fight Club in the theaters (I was 13 at the time) I remember thinking -- “What??? A club for fighting?? That sounds stupid.” I totally judged it based on the title alone and my own preconceived notions.
Little did I know that years later I’d keep hearing about this amazing Fight Club movie. Only once I’d watched it did I have the “Ah ha” moment. At that point I absolutely loved the title and totally got it. Fight Club meant so much more than what it sounds like on the surface, and that’s what makes the title brilliant.
In some ways the fact that a title for something so good could turn me off from it gives me pause when thinking about how to title my own work. Then again, it also gives me a bit of comfort knowing that if something is executed at a strong enough level it will ultimately be successful even if some people like me misjudge it initially.
HBO also did a documentary about WoodStock ‘99, which was very well done and came out first. My hope is that people watch that one as well and compare the two.
This one angered me right off the back by a 26 year old attendee journalist for ABC, not fact checking his own scapegoating, regarding his mention of the film, “Fight Club.” I couldn’t watch it without wondering how much more was false. I was livid, last night and still am today.
The women that were featured nude in the Netflix 3-parter—- did they have to ask their permission to show their images, again? This was 20 some years ago now— how do they feel about seeing their young selves on a streaming platform for the WORLD to see again?
There have recently been documentaries about the revenge porn guy/ Girls Gone Wild—- and Fyre fest—- a lot of this coming from that era (Fyre fest much later but riding the wave). Little known fact: regarding GGW—-he literally stole the idea from some guy in L.A. and sold it to the movie company—-then they produced it under his name.
Woodstock ‘99 was about raking in the money to make up for the 2nd WoodStock that lost money—- greed overtook peace and love. The promoters didn’t even know the type of music they were bringing in. Just what was popular. The HBO WoodStock ‘99 documentary followed the story of a group of friends who lost one member who died from hypothermia—- that wasn’t even mentioned in the Netflix one. Or the deaths at the original WoodStock. But— at least the water department came forward and admitting how bad the water samples were that were tested. That poor girl that got trench mouth—- along with so many others that were victimized—— what a nightmare. I don’t see how those promoters could smile/live with themselves/ and place blame on the musicians.
How about the Snowflake reference in Fight Club that has been used in the media and said started with Fight Club, even though it is two separate uses of the word?
Someone from Rolling Stone called years back and asked if 'Snowflake' was from the movie. He cited Wikipedia. I checked, and Wiki said the word "might" derive from the film. So I shrugged and told that to the reporter. Within minutes the Wiki article was revised to read "Palahniuk confirms that he coined the term." I got railroaded.
I hate the way the term snowflake is used now, maybe one day it will be classed as a slur and then Fight Club will be blamed for that too 🙄😑
I have a signed copy of Fight Club, where Chuck calls me "the snowflake who never falls...". Chuck ahead of the trend, calling people snowflakes before it was a thing 😆
In those pre-social media days, a friend recommended Fight Club to me in the early summer of 1999 as I was in the midst of desperate self-recovery and a complete restructuring of my social life and habits. I had no idea the movie was coming and happened to finish the book the same day I saw the first trailer for the film. I liked the movie a lot and saw it opening night in a full and enthralled Chicago theater. In recent years, post-reckoning for male abusers and manipulators, it appears that the film has become identified as an exemplification of “toxic masculinity” and I find that unfortunate and misguided as I think the book speaks to psychological motivations that go far beyond that.
Exactly. The book brings reflective questions in first person that to this day are a kind of "Class" for first-time writers.
The film, like the book, has many layers. And being stuck just in "alleged exaltation of toxic masculinity" or "Criticism of consumption" is so poor on so many levels.
So you won’t be busting out those sweet leather pants to reminisce?
Not until I lose those extra pounds of lockdown belly fat.
I hear ya. I’ve been working out like crazy for the better part of a year now. Almost back to being comfortable with my shirt off. It doesn’t happen as easily as it used to.
Millions of men descended from other men who were warriors generation after generation for hundreds of thousands of years cant just turn off the need for rough physical trials.
I used to think that if something was on Netflix, a documentary, a feature film, somehow it went through a deep scrutiny. High quality checks. It was supposed to be good stuff. Brand loyalty. Something like that.
Then I bumped into some beautifully shot but poorly written documentaries. On the verge of being pathetic. Listening to some hideous off-putting statements that ruined my evening and send the whole bucket of popcorns to waste.
I was tempted to watch Woodstock '99, but now I kind of rather prefer to go for a long walk with the dog.
That reminds me of how the same year both Marilyn Manson and the movie the matrix were blamed for what happened at Columbine high school. 
Don’t forget the video game, “Doom” that was supposed to be part of the makeup of the shooters mentality/reason of the time.
Ah, the movie ‘Fight Club’. So damaging to the minds of youth that it was effecting them in all manner of ways months before theatrical release. For shame.
If these so called “social scientists” knew anything about the movies releases of 1999 and their effects upon a society, then they’d know that the movie release from that year most likely to cause anarchy, mass destruction and death would be none other than ‘Star Wars: The Phantom Menace’.
A fitting subtitle for such a harbinger of misery and mayhem if I do say so myself.
All the current political malaise can be traced back to that ill-fated spring day.
literally every current problem in society can be attributed to it if we follow the breadcrumb trail back far enough. How that thing made it past the censors, we’ll never know.
Jar-jar is the Sith overlord!
“Misa am the senate!”
You know...
That's why his headphones cords were so tangled up, people kept trying to strangle him because his take on everything was so stupid.
Ha! Just caught that.
I remember watching Fight Club for the first time vividly. I watched it with a couple guys from school. I adored Edward Norton and so I nosed around a little more and found this author, Palahniuk. He wrote this piece called Guts. I had to read it in shifts. The funny part is running up to your friends and trying to summarize Guts it a couple of sentences in order to goat people into reading it and then watching them do the same. That in itself is hilarious and entertaining.
Saw Fight Club in the theater in 1999 shortly after starting college. Immediately sought out the book as well. Still the movie/book I quote most during my day-to-day conversations with myself.
I hate to ask on here, but I couldn't find the information on your site. Chuck, my local University and Comic-Con reached out to me, thinking we're pals because I traveled 14 hours for a meet and greet with you once like 5 years ago, but they were wanting to look into booking you for a speaking event. Who should I have them contact?
From your mouth to God's ear. I'm repped by Sloan Harris at the ICM office in New York. Let me know if you need more info. Thanks!
Hopefully you don’t take offense to this -- because I’m coming from a respectful place when I say this. But when I first saw the preview for Fight Club in the theaters (I was 13 at the time) I remember thinking -- “What??? A club for fighting?? That sounds stupid.” I totally judged it based on the title alone and my own preconceived notions.
Little did I know that years later I’d keep hearing about this amazing Fight Club movie. Only once I’d watched it did I have the “Ah ha” moment. At that point I absolutely loved the title and totally got it. Fight Club meant so much more than what it sounds like on the surface, and that’s what makes the title brilliant.
In some ways the fact that a title for something so good could turn me off from it gives me pause when thinking about how to title my own work. Then again, it also gives me a bit of comfort knowing that if something is executed at a strong enough level it will ultimately be successful even if some people like me misjudge it initially.
At the time, David Fincher was thrilled because Fox was putting the trailer on the front of the new Star Wars movie. That's where most people saw it.
Very possible! Even if I had seen it at the time, I’m not sure my 13 year-old self could have fully appreciated it. I’m glad I saw it later in life.
HBO also did a documentary about WoodStock ‘99, which was very well done and came out first. My hope is that people watch that one as well and compare the two.
This one angered me right off the back by a 26 year old attendee journalist for ABC, not fact checking his own scapegoating, regarding his mention of the film, “Fight Club.” I couldn’t watch it without wondering how much more was false. I was livid, last night and still am today.
The women that were featured nude in the Netflix 3-parter—- did they have to ask their permission to show their images, again? This was 20 some years ago now— how do they feel about seeing their young selves on a streaming platform for the WORLD to see again?
There have recently been documentaries about the revenge porn guy/ Girls Gone Wild—- and Fyre fest—- a lot of this coming from that era (Fyre fest much later but riding the wave). Little known fact: regarding GGW—-he literally stole the idea from some guy in L.A. and sold it to the movie company—-then they produced it under his name.
Woodstock ‘99 was about raking in the money to make up for the 2nd WoodStock that lost money—- greed overtook peace and love. The promoters didn’t even know the type of music they were bringing in. Just what was popular. The HBO WoodStock ‘99 documentary followed the story of a group of friends who lost one member who died from hypothermia—- that wasn’t even mentioned in the Netflix one. Or the deaths at the original WoodStock. But— at least the water department came forward and admitting how bad the water samples were that were tested. That poor girl that got trench mouth—- along with so many others that were victimized—— what a nightmare. I don’t see how those promoters could smile/live with themselves/ and place blame on the musicians.
Just, WOW.
👏 Well said
How about the Snowflake reference in Fight Club that has been used in the media and said started with Fight Club, even though it is two separate uses of the word?
Someone from Rolling Stone called years back and asked if 'Snowflake' was from the movie. He cited Wikipedia. I checked, and Wiki said the word "might" derive from the film. So I shrugged and told that to the reporter. Within minutes the Wiki article was revised to read "Palahniuk confirms that he coined the term." I got railroaded.
I hate the way the term snowflake is used now, maybe one day it will be classed as a slur and then Fight Club will be blamed for that too 🙄😑
I have a signed copy of Fight Club, where Chuck calls me "the snowflake who never falls...". Chuck ahead of the trend, calling people snowflakes before it was a thing 😆
Imagine the damage (or healing) that cultural anthropologists will lay at your feet in a hundred years.
Who’s gonna tweet David Blaustein, the ABC reporter, who mentions “Fight Club” that he’s been fact checked?!?!
Ooooooo!!!
I saw the words "Corn-flower blue" to describe a ring in an ad yesterday. "You can swallow a pint of blood before you get sick." :))
fight club never dies. what a legacy.
In those pre-social media days, a friend recommended Fight Club to me in the early summer of 1999 as I was in the midst of desperate self-recovery and a complete restructuring of my social life and habits. I had no idea the movie was coming and happened to finish the book the same day I saw the first trailer for the film. I liked the movie a lot and saw it opening night in a full and enthralled Chicago theater. In recent years, post-reckoning for male abusers and manipulators, it appears that the film has become identified as an exemplification of “toxic masculinity” and I find that unfortunate and misguided as I think the book speaks to psychological motivations that go far beyond that.
Exactly. The book brings reflective questions in first person that to this day are a kind of "Class" for first-time writers.
The film, like the book, has many layers. And being stuck just in "alleged exaltation of toxic masculinity" or "Criticism of consumption" is so poor on so many levels.