We had so little money growing up that if anyone in the extended family saw a movie s/he had to relate the entire plot to all relations. Our mom could tell us the entire plot of "Play Misty for Me" and not miss a detail. It became a skill.
In regard to the Brit slang in your upcoming book, I’m going to be reading it with a “Cunt Counter” in mind and if you don’t meet a certain quota of cunts by the end, I’m going to be disappointed.
I've often wondered whether Klute, and others like it, Taxi Driver, Dog Day Afternoon, Apocalypse Now, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Straw Dogs, etc. deserve their own genre. Something like humanity is darker than you imagined. Modern movies can be more violent but those reveal something about the human condition which is ugly - Heart of Darkness etc. which is probably why they resonate with me so much.
What really got me about that movie is the fact that Kubrick tried and failed to make it a comedy. When the Droogies are raping and going nuts the soundtrack is always circus music and the camera has the light-hearted angel when atrocities are being done. The music really contrasted with the Droogies actions which completely captures the mindset of these Droogies and it really is incredible and made it that more disturbing.
Agree. Also with the lighting. Brightly lit. Sterile and clean, yet dirty and horrible. Alex, the happy go,-lucky miscreant that brings out the worst in everyone - his parents, his friends, strangers, society.
SIMULACRA & SIMULATION. Also the HYPERREAL. He writes a really good section in the first title about the behind the scenes of APOCALYPSE, NOW and how our film making has become about us kind of trying to bring about our own apocalypse in a very spectral way. What we've begun doing to ourselves with film making & media in general. I think it made him a little insane. Being aware of some of that stuff. And how it bubbles out from some other ghostly area seemingly unrelated.
it wouldn't be crazy, I don't think so. Yes it's based on Marquis De Sade"s work and also influenced by Nietzsche's genealogy of morals. It's really intelligently made albeit obscene and twisted. This is just my view. I think it's a great reminder how depraved some people are.
Noir films seemed to express the darkness people felt returning from WWII. During the train wreck of the Vietnam War we saw our striving and failing thru romantic fatalism. We'd failed in the war, so we had to find some comforting take away. The American Dream was falling apart. In most cases the striving character succeeds only in meeting/bonding with another character. That's why so many of my stories end with only a romantic bond being established.
Omg, I didn't know that was you! I don't know why but the reaction you got after "hail satan" made me laugh hard. And I thought you were adorable up there, so you definitely got a like from me :)
Lucien Greaves retweeted on twitter last week! Best time of my FUCKING LIFE! The shit I had to spit at him to get him to help me write...off the fucking chain! Humiliating! And so fun!
Oh wow, he actually helped you write the story? That's cool. And you lost a job offer because of the tweet? I imagine being associated with the satanic temple doesn't help with employment haha
YES. The amount of truth in that essay is incredible. In order to get Mr. Greaves to help me I wrote to him on twitter saying things like "I’m desperate for Mr. Greaves’ attention. I’ll do anything to please him. I’ll quietly chew his used bubble gum as he eats lunch and then happily and delicately place it back into his mouth once he’s done with lunch. Sir, I’ll do anything. “Sir. Was that clove flavored gum Sir? Delicious. I couldn’t have picked a better flavor myself. You’re goth right down to your bubble gum, Sir. Bravo.”
Not sure if I mentioned this Brit slang when we did the thing before....but "he was caught pissing in someone else's drainpipe" as a reference to being rumbled for having sex with someone you shouldn't takes some beating in my view.
Sounds like fun. I always enjoyed homework - despite being a bit of a procrastinator.
It will be fun. Such a tawdry movie, I love when beautiful famous people strive for gritty low-life cred.
“Barfly!”
Trees Lounge
I used to drink in the real Trees Lounge, and an old friend was the girl in the ice cream truck. (I went to the same high school as the Buscemis.)
Which is tough to find.
Tawdry is a fun word
So is "gritty." You have to love noir words.
Oh, I love words in general. When I was a kid, I asked my parents for a thesaurus for Christmas. They obliged.
Does "ominous" fit the bill as a noir word?
Hmmmm... I prefer "menacing."
I see what you mean. "Menacing" has more of a feel of direct threat, where "ominous" is more vague.
Monster
Oh! Homework!
Fuck yeah!
Can we also watch Barbarella as kind of a double feature? You know because. Just because.....
If you havent heard this, you should. https://youtu.be/rZ9GSFZZY6c
Ha. Pretty funny.
Just to be clear, I'm just kidding.
When was the last time you watched Klute? I’m always impressed by your recall of specifics.
We had so little money growing up that if anyone in the extended family saw a movie s/he had to relate the entire plot to all relations. Our mom could tell us the entire plot of "Play Misty for Me" and not miss a detail. It became a skill.
I blagged my way into a radio station for a day and interviewed all the DJs about strange fans and they recommended 'Play Misty For Me'.
I love romantic fatalism.
Jane got short crack.
Can you say "air-brushed"?
Are you sure her back doesnt go straight into her thighs? Shes awful thin. There are some very short cracks in nearly nonexistent butts.
In regard to the Brit slang in your upcoming book, I’m going to be reading it with a “Cunt Counter” in mind and if you don’t meet a certain quota of cunts by the end, I’m going to be disappointed.
And "knob".
Lest we forget
That WORD. I don't use it once. That's Irvine's wheelhouse.
A damn shame innit. 🤣💀
This is an affront to every Bri’ish cunt. How are you gonna write a book about us and not include at least one casual cunt use? Madness!
The dedication to this book ought to be Britain’s favourite adjective, seeing as how you’ve neglected it like a bastard stepchild. For shame.
THAT word was supposed to be the title, but you know... censorship.
I could weep.
Now it's not just the A.A.Milne toys. We demand that you also return Madonna.
You can have Madonna if we get one of your Area 51 aliens in return.
I'll take a medium. I was born to be a Kangaroo.
Apparently not a Monkee but def a Kangaroo
Ah a movie that has some kick...Can't wait.
I've often wondered whether Klute, and others like it, Taxi Driver, Dog Day Afternoon, Apocalypse Now, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Straw Dogs, etc. deserve their own genre. Something like humanity is darker than you imagined. Modern movies can be more violent but those reveal something about the human condition which is ugly - Heart of Darkness etc. which is probably why they resonate with me so much.
Word! Something us little Droogies can really enjoy.
How could I leave out that one?
I probably say: "It''s all part of the new way" at least once a month.
I think of Alex on at least a weekly basis. Poor Alex.
Misunderstood.
I've always coveted that penis sculpture.
Lol. It's so utterly wrong.
What really got me about that movie is the fact that Kubrick tried and failed to make it a comedy. When the Droogies are raping and going nuts the soundtrack is always circus music and the camera has the light-hearted angel when atrocities are being done. The music really contrasted with the Droogies actions which completely captures the mindset of these Droogies and it really is incredible and made it that more disturbing.
Agree. Also with the lighting. Brightly lit. Sterile and clean, yet dirty and horrible. Alex, the happy go,-lucky miscreant that brings out the worst in everyone - his parents, his friends, strangers, society.
YES!
I'd add I Stand Alone. Came out in 1998. It blends in well with the movies you've mentioned. Bit similar to Taxi Driver.
And there's also Salo. 70s too. The movie you'll see only once, and preferably not with a full stomach.
Thanks. I'll check them out.
I'm a little scared of Salo...
Everyone is.
Have you guys read any Baudrillard?
No, can't say I have. What does he write about?
SIMULACRA & SIMULATION. Also the HYPERREAL. He writes a really good section in the first title about the behind the scenes of APOCALYPSE, NOW and how our film making has become about us kind of trying to bring about our own apocalypse in a very spectral way. What we've begun doing to ourselves with film making & media in general. I think it made him a little insane. Being aware of some of that stuff. And how it bubbles out from some other ghostly area seemingly unrelated.
Haven't seen Salo. Was that movie based on 120 Days of Sodom? Would be crazy if Chuck made us watch a movie like that. Or Cannibal Holocaust lol
Insanity. I'm here for it though. He mentioned "Last Tango in Paris" a few weeks ago. I will never look at a stick of butter the same way!
it wouldn't be crazy, I don't think so. Yes it's based on Marquis De Sade"s work and also influenced by Nietzsche's genealogy of morals. It's really intelligently made albeit obscene and twisted. This is just my view. I think it's a great reminder how depraved some people are.
And lest we forget about HAL 9000. Go ahead, ask Alexa what she thinks about Hal 9000. It's fucking hilarious.
Noir films seemed to express the darkness people felt returning from WWII. During the train wreck of the Vietnam War we saw our striving and failing thru romantic fatalism. We'd failed in the war, so we had to find some comforting take away. The American Dream was falling apart. In most cases the striving character succeeds only in meeting/bonding with another character. That's why so many of my stories end with only a romantic bond being established.
Yes! I can respond! I'll resub soon. Looking forward to watching and analyzing this movie. Hope you had a nice Easter, everyone.
https://www.tiktok.com/@greggdenton612/video/7219325525821541674
Here's my story if you have time. A like would greatly be appreciated... https://chuckpalahniuk.substack.com/p/hindsight-story-night-83
Omg, I didn't know that was you! I don't know why but the reaction you got after "hail satan" made me laugh hard. And I thought you were adorable up there, so you definitely got a like from me :)
THANK YOU!
Lucien Greaves retweeted on twitter last week! Best time of my FUCKING LIFE! The shit I had to spit at him to get him to help me write...off the fucking chain! Humiliating! And so fun!
Oh wow, he actually helped you write the story? That's cool. And you lost a job offer because of the tweet? I imagine being associated with the satanic temple doesn't help with employment haha
YES. The amount of truth in that essay is incredible. In order to get Mr. Greaves to help me I wrote to him on twitter saying things like "I’m desperate for Mr. Greaves’ attention. I’ll do anything to please him. I’ll quietly chew his used bubble gum as he eats lunch and then happily and delicately place it back into his mouth once he’s done with lunch. Sir, I’ll do anything. “Sir. Was that clove flavored gum Sir? Delicious. I couldn’t have picked a better flavor myself. You’re goth right down to your bubble gum, Sir. Bravo.”
And take a look at the story on twitter. Best time of my life. Sitting there on Mr. Greaves page. FUCK YEAH!
Sorry Chuck, what's a thru-line object again? Is it an object that appears throughout the movie?
I think that was the objects that appear and disappear, morphing or changing in purpose
I like the movie night posts! Looking forward to watching this one!
Loved this movie when I saw it 20 years ago. Looking forward to watching it again with your questions in mind.
Not sure if I mentioned this Brit slang when we did the thing before....but "he was caught pissing in someone else's drainpipe" as a reference to being rumbled for having sex with someone you shouldn't takes some beating in my view.
LOL. That is so hardcore.
Face like a bucket of smashed crabs.
Face like a bulldog chewing a wasp.
Face as ugly as a whore's knees.
And his hair's a bit of bad luck, ain't it?
All classics of the genre.
Face like a butcher's bin
I asked someone recently how their mood was and they said, 'Up and down like a whore's drawers.'
Or when I asked how they felt about a situation, 'Like a mushroom. Kept in the dark and fed shit.'
Chuck, Louis is a masterclass in the thing that's a thing before it's THE THING.
https://youtu.be/UdCpgrF6Txw
Excellence. I was laughing so much.
No kidding.