Being able to communicate with you through this substack, Chuck, has been great; I hope you’ll return to the comments in your own time (someone has to call out my occasional typos, you no?).
If people are going to use this wonderful resource you’ve created to expand our minds, to express how unwilling they are to expand their minds… no loss. Dump the snowflakes they are not your tribe. Now can we get on and learn some stuff?
Hi Chuck. Sorry to read that you're stepping away from the comment section for awhile, although I get it. I can't see how 'Heartburn' could be construed as offensive and how could you know the short story would be difficult for some people to find? You have to be one of the most involved authors with their fans and that's incredible. Hopefully will see you posting soon. Just think of all of this as crowd seeding...
And who said you weren't supposed to be offended? All literature should offend somebody, somewhere.
And seriously, someone signed up for a writer's forum run by Chuck Palahanuik and was offended by Heartburn? Heartburn? F-ing Heartburn? Further, when someone is teaching us something and uses an example, to illustrate something, that is not an endorsement of everything said by the author and the characters.
Note to CP if you ever read this:. Sorry for trying to regift a prize. I was so happy about the first one that I felt guilty about winning.
Sorry to be a PITA.
Further note:. I took a class at the New School in NYC years ago called the The Symbolism of Evil. I only spoke ONCE in class and it was to reference Fight Club and the scene where Tyler talked about understanding but not fearing that one day you are going to die. Months later, the professor was having a bad day and the class turned on him and was complaining. It went on for a while and in frustration the prof said "If I can have just one student - one student understand and learn something from this class". - as he pointed to me.
Anyway, thanks for what you do and helping push us along. We'll be waiting.
Call me the world's biggest narcissist (and other epithets of your choice) but this is about the third time at least I feel Chuck's posts are directed squarely at me.
I was offended by the sentence on page 134 of Heartburn that mentions killing turtles. I am a very proud former owner of 4 terrapins, and a dedicated protector of every kind of turtle. That sentence was a stab in the heart.
As far as I know, having read at least 8 of his books, Chuck has never killed a turtle. That would offend me probably even more, being a longtime fan of his work.
As for Through the Safety Net not being easily accessible to people outside the US (even in the neighbouring country), it's true. However, me among many others, posted the online link where you can read it for free. And I have ordered the book online and should be receiving it in 7-10 days.
I have been greatly enjoying this blog and have learned a lot. Sorry to everyone who won't get to receive Chuck's comments. That was a very unexpected and unintended consequence on expressing my views.
Magic exists, and anyone who doesn't believe so is seriously missing out on a wondrous life.
Evidently I missed the part where people got upset about the assigned reading.
Wtf..how’s the book offensive? Not trying to be mean, seriously, I just like to see both sides of a coin.
I am learning with every post you make, Chuck, and every text you ask us to read. Thank you for expanding my world.
I found Through the Safety Net on archive dot org
You have a kitchen view to envy!
Being able to communicate with you through this substack, Chuck, has been great; I hope you’ll return to the comments in your own time (someone has to call out my occasional typos, you no?).
Is this an experiential education lesson on thwarting expectations?
Beautiful view! Take care of yourself. 😊
If people are going to use this wonderful resource you’ve created to expand our minds, to express how unwilling they are to expand their minds… no loss. Dump the snowflakes they are not your tribe. Now can we get on and learn some stuff?
Hi Chuck. Sorry to read that you're stepping away from the comment section for awhile, although I get it. I can't see how 'Heartburn' could be construed as offensive and how could you know the short story would be difficult for some people to find? You have to be one of the most involved authors with their fans and that's incredible. Hopefully will see you posting soon. Just think of all of this as crowd seeding...
Chuck, you are wildly appreciated. Your enlightening posts. Your considered comments. Your thoughtful gifts. All of it. Thank you.
I hope you don’t stay away from comments for long. I’m enthused when you reply to stuff.
Offended by Heartburn?
Really?
And who said you weren't supposed to be offended? All literature should offend somebody, somewhere.
And seriously, someone signed up for a writer's forum run by Chuck Palahanuik and was offended by Heartburn? Heartburn? F-ing Heartburn? Further, when someone is teaching us something and uses an example, to illustrate something, that is not an endorsement of everything said by the author and the characters.
Note to CP if you ever read this:. Sorry for trying to regift a prize. I was so happy about the first one that I felt guilty about winning.
Sorry to be a PITA.
Further note:. I took a class at the New School in NYC years ago called the The Symbolism of Evil. I only spoke ONCE in class and it was to reference Fight Club and the scene where Tyler talked about understanding but not fearing that one day you are going to die. Months later, the professor was having a bad day and the class turned on him and was complaining. It went on for a while and in frustration the prof said "If I can have just one student - one student understand and learn something from this class". - as he pointed to me.
Anyway, thanks for what you do and helping push us along. We'll be waiting.
Eric
Question for the offended party: How familiar are you with Chuck's work?
Good thing no one reads the comments any more ;)
Call me the world's biggest narcissist (and other epithets of your choice) but this is about the third time at least I feel Chuck's posts are directed squarely at me.
I was offended by the sentence on page 134 of Heartburn that mentions killing turtles. I am a very proud former owner of 4 terrapins, and a dedicated protector of every kind of turtle. That sentence was a stab in the heart.
As far as I know, having read at least 8 of his books, Chuck has never killed a turtle. That would offend me probably even more, being a longtime fan of his work.
As for Through the Safety Net not being easily accessible to people outside the US (even in the neighbouring country), it's true. However, me among many others, posted the online link where you can read it for free. And I have ordered the book online and should be receiving it in 7-10 days.
I have been greatly enjoying this blog and have learned a lot. Sorry to everyone who won't get to receive Chuck's comments. That was a very unexpected and unintended consequence on expressing my views.
I'll keep my opinions to myself now,
Karen
Remind me again, what was it Ken Kesey said about offense?